[igrav-steering] [igrav-announce] The problem on stationary states in self gravitational field

Nicolas Arnaud narnaud at lal.in2p3.fr
Thu Sep 9 19:15:08 UTC 2021


Ciao,

Besides guidances that would indeed be useful, I would suggest *not* to 
have a mailing list in which people can subscribe freely *and* post 
freely. That's a noble idea but I don't think it works in the real 
world. And I would even go one step further, in the sense that any list 
whose members we don't "know" (in a broad sense) should be moderated.

Cheers,

Nicolas

Le 09/09/2021 à 18:34, Strunk, Amber D. via igrav-steering a écrit :
> This seems reasonable. I wonder if anyone has a template set of 
> guidelines from other lists they are on.
> 
> Amber
> 
> *From:* Katzman, William <wkatzman at caltech.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 12:59 PM
> *To:* IGrav Steering Committee <igrav-steering at lists.igrav.org>
> *Cc:* Strunk, Amber D. <astrunk at caltech.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [igrav-steering] [igrav-announce] The problem on 
> stationary states in self gravitational field
> 
> We should probably post a set of guidelines and have that go out to to 
> each subscriber when they subscribe.
> 
> -William
> 
> William Katzman
> LIGO Science Education Center
> Program Leader
> wkatzman at ligo-la.caltech.edu <mailto:wkatzman at ligo-la.caltech.edu>
> 225-686-3134
> “Inspiring Science"
> 
> 
> 
>     On Sep 8, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Strunk, Amber D. via igrav-steering
>     <igrav-steering at lists.igrav.org
>     <mailto:igrav-steering at lists.igrav.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Thanks for bringing this up Nicolas I was wondering the same thing.
>     I agree maybe we can address this after the meeting itself.
> 
>     Best,
>     Amber
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: igrav-steering <igrav-steering-bounces at lists.igrav.org
>     <mailto:igrav-steering-bounces at lists.igrav.org>> On Behalf Of
>     Nicolas Arnaud via igrav-steering
>     Sent: Wednesday, September 8, 2021 11:59 AM
>     To: igrav-steering at lists.igrav.org
>     <mailto:igrav-steering at lists.igrav.org>
>     Cc: Nicolas Arnaud <narnaud at lal.in2p3.fr <mailto:narnaud at lal.in2p3.fr>>
>     Subject: [igrav-steering] Fwd: [igrav-announce] The problem on
>     stationary states in self gravitational field
> 
> 
>     Maybe on a longer timescale, we should also think of how we'd like
>     to deal with this kind of posting... That person is registered to
>     the mailing list whose current settings allow members to post
>     directly => he followed the rules.
> 
>     Cheers,
> 
>     Nicolas
> 
>     -------- Message transféré --------
>     Sujet : [igrav-announce] The problem on stationary states in self
>     gravitational field
>     Date : Wed, 8 Sep 2021 15:38:48 +0000
>     De : Станислав Фисенко via igrav-announce
>     <igrav-announce at lists.igrav.org <mailto:igrav-announce at lists.igrav.org>>
>     Répondre à : Станислав Фисенко <stanislavfisenko at yandex.ru
>     <mailto:stanislavfisenko at yandex.ru>>
>     Pour : igrav-announce at lists.igrav.org
>     <mailto:igrav-announce at lists.igrav.org>
>     <igrav-announce at lists.igrav.org <mailto:igrav-announce at lists.igrav.org>>
> 
>     It is believed that according to the General Theory of Relativity
>     (GR), systems with variable quadrupole or higher multipole moments
>     can generate gravitational radiation. Under this assumption, the
>     power of the corresponding gravitational radiation is proportional
>     to the quadrupole mass distribution tensor of the radiating system
>     /Qij/, and the constant /G/ (Newton's gravitational constant), that
>     is included in this dependence, gives the order of magnitude of the
>     radiation power.
>     The illegality of using this formula is not in the use of the
>     quadrupole approximation, but in the calculation scheme. The system
>     can emit only in certain quantum states, and this applies to any
>     radiation, regardless of its nature. This is an axiom of quantum
>     mechanics, as well as the existence of an elementary source of
>     radiation having these states.
>     Consequently, the theoretical prediction of the spectrum of
>     gravitational radiation requires evaluation of quantum states,
>     transitions between which cause radiation.
>     https://iopscience.iop.org/issue/1742-6596/1557/1
>     <https://iopscience.iop.org/issue/1742-6596/1557/1>
>     <https://iopscience.iop.org/issue/1742-6596/1557/1
>     <https://iopscience.iop.org/issue/1742-6596/1557/1>>
>     Stanislav Fisenko
>     Best wishes from Moscow
>     e-mail: StanislavFisenko at yandex.ru
>     <mailto:StanislavFisenko at yandex.ru>
>     <mailto:StanislavFisenko at yandex.ru <mailto:StanislavFisenko at yandex.ru>>
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